Lies, lies as truth, and more lies?

I had this to say on a 'Herald' thread:

"And, no, they have a nutty Unionist agenda all of the time. Tom Gordon is, frankly, up to no good. But the Herald loves him. Click bait 102, for someone else is click bait 101. That would be Mr Torrance, the autobiographer with no access to the person he is supposed to being autobiographical about. And yet, The Herald, still publishes him as a serious journalist.

Frankly, neither of them are.

We deserve better, but it is unlikely to happen.

[Just a brief note for The Herald's Moderators. I have copied this post and will post it elsewhere if you take it down. Best wishes in 2018, you have a difficult role to play.]

I am fed up being lied to by folk that appear to think that they are superior to me. Writing lies in the 'Herald' does not qualify either Tom Gordon nor Mr Torrance as anything other than propogandists. It is frankly a disgrace that 'The Herald' has fallen this low.

Personally I hope it, Tom Gordon and David Torrance all go bankrupt very, very soon.l

Click bait, the lot of them!

I am gutted at the cowardice of 55% of my fellow Scots. This is a victory for masochism.

Mr Fraser Nelson - not a very reasonable person of this parish, perhaps with evidence.

Sudden silence on the part of the lying liars on your web site Mr Nelson?

Sudden silence from the Duncan Neil Crawfords of your Londonstani dreams?

I should like, Mr Nelson, for you to identify your chums here, Mr Duncan Neil Crawford, who is he?

The Viceroy's Gin?

Who is that?

They sound make up dreams, Mr Nelson? They sound a tad unbelievable. When challenged, Mr Duncan Neill Crawford runs away from you, Mr Nelson, like a chimera that didn't exist.

Let's be hearing from you Mr Fraser Nelson.

You can talk to me here:

The profoudly annoying Councillor Terry Kelly

I suspect this will not survive the Herald's moderation policy:

"We are on opposite sides Mr Kelly.

Sometimes, the censors might release my comment or not. I had a lot more to say.

However,  censorship is the ulkmate evil, Mr Kelly, but that is what we appear to have on a local, Scottish, media.

I doubt they wish to discuss that, discussions on their censorship are pretty well forbidden. 1984 and all that.

Best wishes.

I expect this is over and out, because they have a commercial rule and I have not. I have, obviously, saved this, elsewhere."





Well it won't, will it?

The Magnificent Councillor Terry Kelly

Our hero wote this on the Herard web site:

Terry Kelly, renfrewshire

• 20 hours ago

A lot of angry insulting comments here about Mr. Carmichael, someone whom I am not a fan of, quite the opposite. I was also not a fan of my maths teacher at school but was forced to concede that he was right when he said 2+2 = 4.

The anger here disguises the fact and it is a fact that with separation the government south of Scotland can and will do what they think is to their benefit. This does not just apply to guards and border posts but to building war ships, passports, currency etc.  it was always going to be the case and it has been well articulated since this laugharendum farce started, people would do well to consider what other issues would be out with Scotland's control under separation.

It is astonishing that a little known idiot from Paisely can encapsulate this shit in his polemic.

I refer to this:

it was always going to be the case and it has been well articulated since this laugharendum farce started, people would do well to consider what other issues would be out with Scotland's control under separation.


This is just denial of what we could be, in favour of what they are.

Councillor Terry Kellly is a pretty disgusting example of the British State in action. He wants you nuclear bombs within 25 miles or so of Paisley. He wants you, dear reader to be poorer because of his principles, which are a tad daft, much like the Labour Party, in absentia, The folk that tell you they are for the future when the are for in fact for our death and destruction.

Cleave to folk like Terry Kelly, that would see you dead rather than attempt to lead us as a world without nuclear weapons.

Terry Kelly is not in favour of you, dear reader, he is in favour of himself, wherever that takes him.

Qui bono? 

The apparent death of Liberal Conspiracy

I had this to say

"Sunny,

A few questions if I may?
1) I’d have thought blogging was in your DNA. Is this site giving up on it’s collectivism and going to become your personal, occasional, outlet?
2) You, probably folded Pickled Politics when it was as at it’s lowest ebb. Frankly, without your, and Rumbolds[‘, above the line comments remaining confrontational rather than being matters of historical record, you called it right. It had lost it’s edge, as has this blog over the last few months. So, where does the ‘voice’ go from here?
3) I am delighted that you are getting a career. I look forward to hearing more about your documentary with the BBC. When will it view?
_____________________________
Anyway, Saor Alba and best wishes for your future. Our routes are now divergent, but I will never forget the generosity of spirit within the Asian community that you introduced me to. I have learnt a lot from both you and the people that commented on your blogs. It has been a fascinating experience for me.
No doubt this post will be followed with yet another downsider. Well, fuck them! You did it, they didn’t.
Best wishes.
douglas clark"

And this:

"You are underestimating your own ability Sunny.
I would never, ever, vote for the Labour Party, but I would vote for you.
You might like to look at the statistics for Wings over Scotland, a site I am currently banned from commenting on.
What’s new?
Anyway, it goes from strength to strength and has a comparatively, Scottish-wise, enormous audience.
http://wingsoverscotland.com/that-time-of-the-month/
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He used his authority to crowd-source opinion polls. Y’know, pay for them. Like you could ask too?
Asking straightforward question of the electorate garners straightforward answers. I am fascinated to know that only a 5% swing or so will give us independence from the self centred Westminster elite. Where we go from there is, kind of obviously, down to us.
I would have assumed that you could crowd source your journalism in exactly the same way as Rev Stu. Heck, I’d have funded you! And Rev Stu got money out of me before banning me. It is easy to appear to be one thing, an open forum and then be another. Anyway enough about the Rev Stu.
My point is that he has a model for citizen journalism that ought to pay your wages.
Despite being a particularily nasty man – it is not obvious – he garnered a salary from his fans.
If you open a similar appeal, I would contribute.
Best wishes
douglas clark"

"Well said John MacIntyre ! Scotland has the best of everything UK wide, far greater than Wales, Northern Ireland and in terms of sheer quality of life England as well !
Most Scots are rightly proud of the massive contribution by a relatively small country to the development of not only within the former British Empire but throughout the United States, China and even Japan ! Why allow a miserable little twerp like Salmond lead people to believe anything other than the Scots are perhaps the greatest of the world's smallest nations in terms of achievement and global recognition. Let's continue to enjoy the benefits of being part of a strong union and still be admired around the Globe."

Err...

This is what the  opposition to independence claim.

There are so many holes in that arguement